MOVERS & SHAPERS: A DANCE PODCAST

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MSP 191: Sara Coffin and Susanne Chui

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PODCAST 191: Sara Coffin and Susanne Chui

Release Date: 12.18.25

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Mocean Dance with Sara Coffin and Susanne Chui

Episode 195: Show Notes

Some creative partnerships do more than grow over time; they help shape an entire artistic landscape. In this episode of The Movers and Shapers Podcast, we meet Sara Coffin and Susanne Chui, co-artistic directors of Mocean Dance, whose long shared history and collaborative vision have transformed contemporary dance in Nova Scotia. Sara begins by tracing her path from early choreography to training across Canada and the United States, and how returning home eventually led her into a leadership role with Mocean Dance. Susanne shares her parallel journey, from a childhood in community dance to professional training in Toronto and the decision to return to Halifax, where she built an independent career before joining the company. Together, they reflect on the evolution of Mocean Dance from a dancer-centered company to a community-focused hub for creation, training, and sector-wide collaboration. They discuss how their friendship, complementary strengths, and improvisational ethos shape their working relationship, and they offer a look at the ambitious interdisciplinary and land-based projects that will define their next chapter. Listen in for a thoughtful conversation about collaboration, place-based artistry, and what it takes to sustain a thriving dance ecosystem outside major centers.

Key Points From This Episode:

  • Sara’s early pull toward dance and her first experiences in choreographing.
  • Training across Canada and finding her voice through somatics and collaboration.
  • Forming the SiNS (Sometimes in Nova Scotia) collective: building an early artistic community.
  • Returning to Halifax and stepping into leadership at Mocean Dance.
  • Completing her MFA at Smith College in the United States to deepen her artistic practice.
  • Susanne’s community-based dance beginnings and discovery of professional training.
  • Moving to Toronto for conservatory study and early company work.
  • Returning home to build an independent career supported by grants and local networks.
  • Joining Mocean Dance and forming a co-artistic partnership with Sara.
  • Learning the administrative demands of running a company.
  • Shifting Mocean from dancer-centered work to community-focused programming.
  • Expanding professional development offerings, labs, and training programs.
  • Building interdisciplinary partnerships across art, ecology, architecture, and design.
  • Developing land-based and relational works with Indigenous collaborators.
  • Reflections on sustaining a long-term creative partnership rooted in trust and improvisation.
  • Looking ahead to large regional initiatives and reimagined touring models.

ABOUT Sara Coffin

Sara Coffin (she/her) is an award-winning dance artist, choreographer, educator, and Co-Artistic Director of Mocean Dance.  Sara received the Creative Nova Scotia Established Artist Award in 2018. She holds a MFA in Choreography from Smith College (USA), BFA in Dance from Simon Fraser University and BSc in Kinesiology from Dalhousie University. Her choreographic work has been presented in many prominent Canadian dance festivals and in the United States. Coffin’s research interests include interdisciplinary collaboration, improvisation and the praxis of contact improvisation, technology as an extension of the body, and the poetic junction between vulnerability, resiliency, and courage.
photo: James MacLean

ABOUT Susanne Chiu

Susanne Chui (she/her) is a mother of two, an award-winning dance artist and Co-Artistic Director of Mocean Dance.  As a performer for 23 years, Susanne has worked with over 25 choreographers from across Canada, and her dancing in Mocean’s Canvas 5 x 5, choreographed by Tedd Robinson, earned her the 2016 Lieutenant Governor of Nova Scotia’s Masterworks Award.

For Mocean, Susanne has co-created with Erin Donovan (Hear Here Productions), Burnwater and Burnwater: Alchemy, both multi disciplinary, immersive performances. A passionate improvisor, Susanne collaborates across disciplines and is a faculty member of the Creative Music Workshop. Her most recent project, Where Dance and Music Meet, featured 19 performers in a full-length evening of improvised dance and music forms. Whether in the studio, on stage, or in unconventional environments, her work invites permeability between dancer, witness, and space—allowing each to shape the experience in real time.
photo: James MacLean

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MSP 190: Danielle Guillermo

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PODCAST 190: Danielle Guillermo

Release Date: 12.4.25

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The Dancer’s Entrepreneurial Leap with Danielle Guillermo

Episode 190: Show Notes

A dancer’s career is often shorter than many others, and for the most part, there comes a time when the performer must pivot and find other ways to find value and joy in their craft. Joining us today is Danielle Guillermo, a former dancer turned dance consultant, as well as brand strategist and web designer. We begin with Danielle’s background and how she got into the world of dance before learning how her home and school support structures gave her the confidence needed to excel in performance. Then, we examine how her career goals have evolved since high school, how being rejected from Juilliard was a blessing in disguise, her role at the Dayton Contemporary Dance Company, and other early-career experiences, and everything that happened to instigate the second phase of her career. We also discover how Danielle began building websites, her journey as a brand strategist, why she chose the teaching route, and why it’s possible (and healthy) for artists to have financial aspirations without compromising their art. To end, Danielle walks us through Dance News Daily — the news hub she built for the entire dance community — and we discover what she has planned for the near future as well as how to connect with her and her work.

Key Points From This Episode:

  • Danielle Guillermo describes who she is and how she got into the world of dance.
  • What drew her to ballet, and a journey through her time at dance school.
  • How her support structures gave her confidence that she previously had to fake. 
  • The goals she had when growing up in dance school and how they’ve evolved.
  • Rejected from Juilliard: The ups and downs of her dancing education after high school.    
  • The start of her career and her experience at Dayton Contemporary Dance Company. 
  • Her European adventure, and everything that happened post-DCDC 2. 
  • How Danielle’s performance career ended and why she chose to focus full-time on teaching. 
  • Breaking Glass: How she approached a career crossroads at the age of 31. 
  • How artists can also have aspirations of financial freedom without compromising their art.
  • Danielle’s website-building career and how it’s transformed her and her client’s lives.  
  • The importance of building a personal brand and making it visible to the right people.  
  • Unpacking Dance News Daily – a news hub for the entire dance community. 
  • Danielle’s upcoming projects and what she’s focused on moving forward.  
  • How to connect with Danielle Guillermo and her work.

Additional Notes about Danielle’s first dance jog:

“In my first company position, I was paid $283 per week in NYC. I was fortunate to find an apartment for $300/ month with a roommate. It was 2002, and it was a miracle to find such a deal in Manhattan. Everything was tight but with $25/week from my parents and a nice social network, my needs both physical and social were met. I never felt trapped at home unable to have fun. We also did a bit of touring and had our expenses and per diem covered.” Read more on her BLOG

ABOUT Danielle

Danielle Smith Guillermo has been involved in professional dance for over 20 years. A featured educator-turned-entrepreneur in Dance Teacher Magazine, Danielle is recognized for helping dance business owners elevate their marketing and management strategies. Prior to her career pivot, Danielle was an Adjunct Instructor of Dance at Messiah University and Director of the Messiah Summer Dance Intensive. She has also been on faculty at Pennsylvania Regional Ballet (PRB), Hershey School of Dance, and the school of Dayton Contemporary Dance Co. Her choreography has been shown at Symphony Space (NYC), Messiah University, Regional Dance America, and events nationally and abroad. She was awarded the Monticello Award and Josephine Schwarz Award for choreography and selected for the inaugural Breaking Glass Emerging Female Choreographer’s Project. One of her most meaningful projects is The Ugly Duckling, a modern-ballet, adapted story, and residency with an original score by the late James Casey, created to address bullying in elementary-aged children. This outreach project was performed by and grant-funded through PRB, making an impact on over 2000 students. As a dancer, Danielle has been a member of Avodah Dance Ensemble, Dayton Contemporary Dance Company II, and was a featured performer, dance captain, and choreographer at Sight & Sound Theatre. Most recently, Danielle launched DanceNewsDaily.com, a leading platform and daily newsletter delivering the latest dance news. She continues to provide web design services and resources for dance at DanielleGuillermo.com.

 

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MSP 189: Amber Sloan

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PODCAST 189: Amber Sloan

Release Date: 11.20.25

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A Life in Dance with Amber Sloan

Episode 189: Show Notes.

Amber Sloan’s life in dance has unfolded through curiosity, community, and constant reinvention. Growing up in Virginia, her early exposure to improvisation and composition in high school sparked not just a love of movement but a way of thinking that would shape her future. Her time at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign deepened that foundation and connected her with the people and places that helped her put down artistic roots. From piecing together income through unexpected jobs, including one for Harvey Keitel’s wife, to choreographing for the Joyce SoHo and seeking to scale her work in the years leading up to the pandemic, Amber has never shied away from the uncomfortable or the uncertain. She’s navigated performance anxiety, surgery and recovery, and the challenge of being involved in many facets of the dance world, from performing with David Parker to presenting work through platforms like Women in Motion. Today, with recent pieces like her show at Kestrels (set to return next year), she continues to build a career that defies the assumptions people often make about a life in dance. At the heart of it all is a simple, lasting dream: to keep exploring alongside the dancers who move her work forward. Thanks for listening.

Key Points From This Episode:

  • Amber Sloan’s upbringing in Virginia and her introduction to dance. 
  • How early experiences of improv and composition in high school shaped her career.
  • Continuing her dance journey at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign.
  • How the connections she made while studying helped her develop roots in dance.
  • Working various jobs to pay the bills, including a role for Harvey Keitel’s wife.
  • Choreographing for the Joyce SoHo. 
  • Making an effort to do her work in a bigger way pre-pandemic. 
  • Navigating performance anxiety and doing what is uncomfortable. 
  • Being involved in many different areas of dance. 
  • How a 2015 surgery and recovery impacted Amber’s career. 
  • Dancing for David Parker: rehearsals, footwork, and more. 
  • Amber’s presenting work, including Women in Motion and more. 
  • Recent work including a show at Kestrels which will show again next year. 
  • Why a life in dance is often not what you might expect. 
  • Her ultimate dream for her work: to keep exploring with her dancers.

ABOUT Amber

Amber Sloan is a New Jersey State Council on the Arts Choreography Fellow whose work has been presented across the United States, Mexico City, Mexico, and locally at venues including Kestrels, Arts On Site, Roulette Theater, Dixon Place, 92Y Harkness Dance Center, Art House Productions, South Orange PAC, Smush Gallery, the EstroGenius Festival, and in a 21-year commissioning relationship with the DanceNow Festival. She was a Monira Foundation Performance Resident at Mana Contemporary, an Artist in Residence at Union Street Dance, an Emerging New Jersey Commissioned Choreographer for Dance on the Lawn, and a Schonberg Fellow at The Yard on Martha’s Vineyard. She has been awarded space grants from Gibney Dance Center, Brooklyn Arts Exchange, and Spoke the Hub, and her work has been annually supported by the Jerome Robbins Foundation since 2009.
As a performer, Amber has been a member of The Bang Group since 2002, and has performed in works by Doug Elkins, Keely Garfield, Sara Hook, Stephan Koplowitz, and James Waring, as staged by Richard Colton. She serves on the faculty of the Ailey School as the dance composition teacher for the Professional Division program. She has been a guest teacher at Marymount Manhattan College, DeSales University, Muhlenberg College, Holy Cross, Salem State, American Ballet Theatre’s Summer Intensive, Boston Ballet Summer Program, The Yard, Gibney Dance Center, and Brooklyn Arts Exchange.
Amber is the Assistant Executive Director of Arts On Site, a women-led nonprofit organization founded in 2016 to support artists and build community. She co-directs Women in Motion NYC, an organization whose mission is to foster female choreographers through the commissioning of new work, producing, and mentoring, and she serves on the advisory board of Art Omi: Dance. Amber holds a BFA in Dance from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign where she was honored with the Beverly Blossom/Carey Erickson Alumni Dance Award.

 

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MSP 188: Sara Veale

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PODCAST 188: Sara Veale

Release Date: 11.5.25

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Attuning to the Beauty of Passion with Sara Veale

Episode 188: Show Notes

The incredible beauty of passion lies in the relentless dedication of one’s entire being, a force that radiates outward to inspire and elevate others. Today on the Movers & Shapers podcast, Erin is joined by author and dance critic Sara Veale. A North Carolina native, dancer turned dance writer, currently living in London, UK. Tune into the conversation as they dance into what inspired Sara into a lifelong journey in dance, how dance became an integral part of her identity, and what sparked her journey to shift into one that centers around her writing. They discuss her transition from the US to London, UK, the differences in the dance world, and she unpacks the responsibility of writing dance reviews and why she ultimately finds the Stars system to be fundamentally flawed. They then dive into an in-depth discussion on her book, Wild Grace: The Untamed Women of Modern Dance, breaking down what inspired the writing, how she approached the structure of the book, incorporating advice from her editor, delving deeply into the research, and the timeline from beginning to end. She shares how the book ultimately led her to a new attuning of the very beauty of passion itself! Be sure not to miss out on all this, and as always, much more. Thanks for listening, enjoy!

Key Points From This Episode:

  • Sara reveals how a two-year-old girl’s fascination with movement blossomed into a lifelong journey in dance.
  • Sara explains what about dance made it such an integral part of her identity.
  • The journey of her writing career.
  • How her future was shaping up during her time at college.
  • Sara unpacks how she got into writing as a dance critic. 
  • We discuss her transition from the US to London, UK, and how it shaped her dance writing.
  • Finding her voice in the dance critic world.
  • Why you’ve got to be reading when you want to be writing, according to Sara.
  • The responsibility behind writing dance reviews. 
  • She shares why she believes the idea of the Stars system, when writing reviews, is fundamentally flawed. 
  • We delve into a discussion on her book, Wild Grace: The Untamed Women of Modern Dance.
  • How she approached the structure of her book, finding the women, taking advice from her editor, and making tough decisions.
  • Sara explains the research journey she undertook for her book and the women she writes about.
  • She breaks down the timeline from the beginning to the end of getting her book published.
  • How writing her book had a profound personal impact, attuning her to the very beauty of passion itself.
  • Sara talks about the creation of the book’s abstract cover.
  • What Sara has planned next: books, sabbaticals, and connecting with her family. 
  • We talk about the shortage of non-academic, or mainstream, dance writing.

ABOUT Sara

Sara Veale is an American writer and editor based in London, with a focus on dance, feminism and design. She has been a freelance dance critic since 2013, covering a range of international artists and companies through reviews, interviews and essays. Her dance writing has appeared in The Observer, The Spectator, Harper’s Bazaar, Fjord Review, Gramophone, Auditorium, DanceTabs and more. 

Sara is a member of the Dance Critics Circle, managing editor of the Future Spaces Foundation, and a former editor of Review 31. Her book, Wild Grace: The Untamed Women of Modern Dance, was published by Faber in 2025 (Faber US: spring 2026).

photo by Martina Ferrera

 

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MSP 187: Ann Carlson

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PODCAST 187: Ann Carlson

Release Date: 10.23.25

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The Curiosity That Moves Us with Ann Carlson

Episode 189: Show Notes. 

At the heart of every great artistic work is the exploration of curiosity and a commitment to the process of creation. Today on Movers & Shapers, Ann Carlson joins us to discuss her illustrious career in interdisciplinary arts and shares the deep curiosity she possesses about movement, meaning, and the human experience, with work borrowing from the disciplines of dance and performance as well as visual, conceptual, and social art practices.  In this conversation, Ann reflects on how she first discovered her love of dance, how working with Meredith Monk and exploring performance art shaped her creativity, and the thriving performance scenes in NYC in the 90s that opened doors for experimentation. She shares the inspiration behind her work with animals, the reality of supporting herself financially as an artist, and how she navigated motherhood and her dance career. She also dives into the delicate marriage between process and product in creation before discussing her dance project, The Symphonic Body. Finally, Ann reveals what is piquing her interest today and shares a glimpse of what the future will hold for her in her career. Thanks for listening! 

Key Points From This Episode:

  • A brief overview of today’s guest, Ann Carlson, and how she found her love of dance.  
  • How performance art and working with Meredith Monk inspired Ann’s own creations. 
  • Cross-connecting dance with other performance scenes during her time in NYC. 
  • What inspired Ann’s animal series and how she managed to support herself. 
  • How Ann’s dance career pivoted when she started a family.
  • The beautiful amalgamation of process and product in dance creation.
  • What Ann learned about art from the poet Allen Ginsberg. 
  • Ann looks back on her career and some of the most meaningful projects she did. 
  • Ann tells us what she is curious about today and what her next project will be.

ABOUT Ann

Ann Carlson is an interdisciplinary artist whose work borrows from the disciplines of dance and performance as well as visual, conceptual and social art practices. Carlson’s work takes the form of solo performance, large-scale site-specific projects, ensemble-stage based dances and performance video.

Ann’s work as a whole is engaged with flattening traditional hierarchies, and throwing off the guardrails of who gets access to participate and be immersed in the contemporary dance / art experience. Carlson often works in a series format, loosely organized into interspecies performance collaborations, dance / performance works made with and performed by people gathered together by a common profession, activity or shared passion and large scale site specific performance installations, commissioned works for dance companies, galleries, museums, orchestras and collaborative performance videos. Carlson works from a “ world as studio” aesthetic, cultivating and curating the elements of everyday life as a way of exploring how to be together, how to be alone, in a world bound by and blended with the more-than-human.

Carlson is the recipient of numerous awards for her artistic work. Her awards include a Creative Capital Award, a Doris Duke Award for Performing Artists, a National Dance Project Award, two American Masters awards, a USA Artist Fellowship, a Guggenheim Fellowship, a New York Foundation for the Arts Fellowship, a Fellowship from the Foundation for Contemporary Art, she is the recent recipient of a Fellowship from the Santa Monica Arts Council, multiple MapFund awards, numerous awards from the National Endowment for the Arts, and Ann was the first recipient of the Cal /Arts Alpert Award in dance.

Carlson has a long-time collaboration with visual artist Mary Ellen Strom. Their current project, SoS is a site adaptive work in response to flooding and rising sea levels around the globe. Carlson/Strom’s performance video work is held in the public collections of Fonds Regional D’Art Contemporaire, (FRAC) Marseilles, France, The Museum of Fine Arts Boston, The DeCordova Museum and Sculpture Park, Lincoln, MA, The Rose Museum, at Brandeiss University, Waltham, MA. Carlson / Strom was awarded The St. Garden’s Prize in sculpture for their video, “Four Parallel lines”.

Carlson has been a visiting faculty member at numerous universities, among them, Wesleyan, Stanford, and Princeton University and currently is thrilled to be an adjunct professor at UCLA’s Dept. of World, Arts, Culture and Dance. Carlson lives in Los Angeles, California and Bozeman, Montana.

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